I would like to thank Ingmar de Boer for compiling a list of study documents pertinent to our continuing effort in finding the historical Stanzas of Dzyan.
A number of important writings will show up, including Emil Schlagintweit's "Buddhism in Tibet", considered by some to be a primary source document for HPB.
There is well over a hundred of these texts and any help from any member willing to pitch in is most appreciated.
These will start appearing over the next few days in the Stanzas Documents section.
One note of interest is tonight we have added the Cosmological Notes, referred to in the Mahatma Letters. These are photocopies of the letters in the British Museum, and they are somewhat difficult to read, as they are in Sinnett's handwriting.
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Comment by Ingmar de Boer on December 11, 2011 at 5:52pm Some relevant sites for finding scanned PDF-books:
Digital Library of India |
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French National Library |
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Google Books |
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indologica.de |
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Internet Archive |
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Kőrösi Csoma Sándor Archívum |
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Scribd |
Comment by Ingmar de Boer on December 7, 2011 at 4:53am Huc |
Evariste |
Perils et Aventures D'Un |
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Turner |
Capt. |
Account of an Embassy to the |
1800 |
Müller |
Max |
Chips from a German |
1872 |
Quite a collection of works of Huc can be found in the Bibliothèque Nationale too. I didn't study the "Perils et Aventures" yet, as also the work or Turner.
Müller's "Chips" was quite interesting because of (the ablative case ending) explaining the final "t" on svâbhâvat.
Schmidt's 1835 Mongolisch-Deutsch-Russisches Wörterbuch was pointed out to me by the late Henk Spierenburg, in relation to the word chohan. I have not been checking this one out either.
Comment by Ingmar de Boer on December 6, 2011 at 12:14pm A link to the bibliography of "works on Buddhism available to HPB", by Richard P. Taylor:
http://www.blavatsky.net/forum/taylor/tibetanSources12.htm
The items marked with ** are "established sources" for HPB.
Comment by Jacques Mahnich on November 29, 2011 at 3:58pm + what was cut.
| Analyse du Kandjour | Csoma de Köros | Feer Léon | 1881 |
| Abrégé des matières du Tandjour | Csoma de Köros | Feer Léon | 1881 |
| O-mi-to-king | Koumarajiva | Ymaïzoumi et Yamata | 1881 |
| Textes sanskrits découverts au Japon | Müller Max | Milloué M. de | 1881 |
| Le Bouddhisme au Tibet | Schlagintweit Emile de | Milloué M. de | 1881 |
| Fragments extraits du Kandjour | Feer Léon | 1883 |
Comment by Jacques Mahnich on November 29, 2011 at 3:56pm Here are some books (20) written in French either as translations from other languages or as native which were published between 1830 & 1883, and which are dealing with buddhism at this time. I have downloaded them from the French National Library and I intend to go through this collection. It will just need time...
| Titre | Auteur | Traducteur | Année |
| La vie chez les indous et les peuples bouddhistes | Bochinger J.J. | 1831 | |
| Introduction à l'Histoire du Bouddhisme Indien | Burnouf E. | 1844 | |
| Introduction à l'histoire du Buddhisme Indien par E.Burnouf | Biot | 1845 | |
| Le Bouddhisme, son fondateur et ses écritures | Neve Félix | 1853 | |
| Du Bouddhisme | St Hilaire B. | 1855 | |
| Du Nirvana Indien | Obry J.B.F. | 1856 | |
| Le Bouddha et le Bouddhisme | Schoebel C. | 1857 | |
| Le Trésor des Belles Paroles | Saskya Pandita Lama | Foucaux Ph. Ed. | 1858 |
| Histoire du Bouddha Sakya Mouni | Foucaux Ph. ED. | 1860 | |
| Le Bouddhisme et ses dogmes | Vassilief M.V. | La Comme M.G.A. | 1863 |
| Du Nirvana Bouddhique | Obry J.B.F. | 1863 | |
| Introduction du Bouddhisme dans le Kashmir | Feer Léon | 1866 | |
| Le Bouddha et sa religion | Saint-Hilaire Barthélémy | 1866 | |
| Vie de Gautama, Bouddha des Birmans | Bigandet P. Monseigneur | Gauvain Victor | 1878 |
| Analyse du Kandjour | Cso |
Comment by David Reigle on November 29, 2011 at 2:39pm to finish:
I have also not been able to check Eugene Burnouf's books in French, because I do not know French. But again, I have looked through them for terms such as fohat. And again, Jacques has checked them.
Sources such as Brian Hodgson's 1874 Essays on the Languages, Literature, and Religion of Nepal and Tibet (on the Svabhavikas, etc.) may have been used only at second-hand; that is, as these were quoted by others.
So in all, it seems that only a relatively small number of books pertaining to Buddhism were used by HPB. There were not many available then, and the ones that were available are usually not very reliable. Much in the SD comes from them.
Comment by David Reigle on November 29, 2011 at 2:37pm Regarding the large number of sources that HPB may have used, well over a hundred, it is probable that only a comparatively few of these were used by her to any extent. Ever since finding, by accident around 1978, that material on Tibetan Buddhism found in The Secret Doctrine came from Schlagintweit, I have been gathering other likely SD sources. HPB's primary sources on Buddhism seem to be Schlagintweit, Beal, and Edkins, along with a fair amount of material from Spence Hardy (especially from his Eastern Monachism), and with occasional material from Markham, Rhys Davids, Eitel, Burnouf, and a few others. Here are my conclusions:
For Eastern material in general, William Emmette Coleman is right that HPB's major source is H. H. Wilson's translation of the Vishnu Purana, edited by Fitzedward Hall and published in six volumes. Since she often quotes Hall's notes, we need this edition rather than Wilson's earlier editions. Richard Robb, Wizards Bookshelf, had intended to reprint this set in his Secret Doctrine Reference Series, but could never raise the necessary funds for this large project. This was before the days of internet and Google. I do not know if this edition is available on the internet now, but if not I can scan my copy.
The major SD source for Tibetan Buddhism is Emil Schlagintweit's 1863 Buddhism in Tibet.
The major Mahatma Letters source for Buddhism, incuding the devachan question, is Samuel Beal's 1871 Catena of Buddhist Scriptures from the Chinese.
Another important HPB source for Buddhism is Joseph Edkins' 1880 Chinese Buddhism.
Spence Hardy's books (1850 Eastern Monachism, 1853 Manual of Buddhism, and 1866 Legends and Theories of the Buddhists), despite giving Buddhism second-hand from Sinhalese sources rather than directly from Pali sources, contain a surprising amount of reasonably accurate information on Buddhism. This is especially true, considering their early date. HPB uses these a fair amount, including in the Voice.
P. Bigandet's 1858, 1866, and 1880 Life or Legend of Gaudama, also early and second-hand from Burmese, is used occasionally by HPB, such as the important but quite unmarked reference in the Collected Writings, vol. 14, p. 388 (cp. Stanza 5, sloka 6), relating to Bigandet's vol. 2, pp. 209-211. This is from the third edition, which is the one HPB used. It was reprinted unchanged into the 1900s. You also see "Dzan" here on p. 210 of vol. 2, although a fuller reference on this is in Edkins.
Clements R. Markham's 1876 Narratives of the Mission of George Bogle to Tibet and of the Journey of Thomas Manning to Lhasa, of course, is HPB's source for "Kiu-te," and a few other things.
T. W. Rhys Davids' 1877 Buddhism: Being a Sketch of the Life and Teachings of Gautama, the Buddha, is critiqued in the Mahatma Letters, and also in Sinnett's Esoteric Buddhism following these letters.
Ernest J. Eitel's 1870 and 1888 Hand-book of Chinese Buddhism, Being a Sanskrit-Chinese Dictionary with Vocabularies of Buddhist Terms in Pali, Singhalese, Siamese, Burmese, Tibetan, Mongolian and Japanese, has some of the strange spellings used by HPB, such as "dj" for "j" at the beginning of Sanskrit words (djana for jnana). Another such strange spelling comes from Schmidt's German books, which use initial "ss" for "s" in Tibetan words. We see this in "ssa" for "sa" in the Cosmological Notes.
I have not been able to check Wassiljew's and Schmidt's books in German, because I do not know German. But I have looked through them for terms such as fohat. Also, Jacques has recently read through the whole French translation of Wassiljew's book, and Frank has been checking Schmidt's books for quotations used by HPB.
I have also not been able to check Eugene Burnouf's books in French, because I do not know French. But again, I have looked through them for term
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