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Permalink Reply by Christian Espinoza on September 30, 2011 at 6:24pm Hello,
I think first we need learn to be Men, yes, Human beings. Many Beliefs offers an apotheosis, an exaltation, and selfishly we seek it, but we rarely ask ourselves if we are doing the things right in our lives, what we are doing as men for the betterment of humanity? When we'll leave this world as men, what have we improved? whom we will have helped?
I think this is the way, we can not ignore our humanity, we are substance of it and this world for a reason...
"If the Caterpillar doesn't learn how to do Catepillar's things properly, it doesn't know how to make a cocoon...
If the Caterpillar never make a cocoon, it never will be a Butterfly"
Greetings.
Christian.

Permalink Reply by Capt. Anand Kumar on September 30, 2011 at 7:22pm 
Permalink Reply by Joe Fulton on September 30, 2011 at 8:19pm I agree much, Capt. Kumar. Many times at work you'll run into people who want to be an engineer or captain a ship without understanding basics of design, navigation or a hundred other essentials. This not to say that we shouldn't aspire to something better. The other aspect of this is one of being careful of what you ask for. The wider abilities equated into more responsibility and the greater the chance of really screwing things up.
At some level there is a universal law that all beings must adhere to ... Murphy's.

Permalink Reply by Capt. Anand Kumar on September 30, 2011 at 8:31pm Well said Joe. I hadn't thought about the universal applicability of Murphy's Law.
Currently I am happy with being human with all its associated pains and pleasures and look forward to ageing and death. I see no reason why I should give this up and aspire to be a chela, Mahatma or GOD.
Perhaps ignorance is bliss. But bliss it is.

Permalink Reply by Joe Fulton on September 30, 2011 at 10:59pm
Permalink Reply by Michael A. Williams on October 1, 2011 at 11:06am There seems to be two perspectives on this subject in the Metaphysical community. One is that "we are human's occasionally having a spiritual or godlike experience."
The other is one expressed by our own Peter O'Lalor, in a recent forum on "The Pyramid Code," which says: "We are spiritual beings having a human experience."
It appears that the former is the one so far being expressed here. But, I agree with the later, and with the saying "we are already immortal and godlike, and to realize it we have only to get out of the way of our own shadow." Of course, that's easier said than done.
Neiljan, if you have a deep, burning desire to "become as a god," and it's not just a passing whim or fleeting wish, then I say "go for it!"
Far be it from me to tell you what path to take on your journey. You can start with the very spiritual and religious groups you are in now. Check into Tibetan Buddhism, I'm sure one of its many schools of thought and practice will have something to help you. Also, the mystical tradition of Islam, Sufism, is a goldmine in this regard(and was influential in early Theosophy). Look into esoteric Christianity, especially modern Gnosticism, for additional assistance.
Also, Google Search "how to become a god," and you'll find several interesting groups to join.
Your persistent search for answers in all this should be most enlightening. Best to you and keep us informed.
As for "Murphy's law," the exact origins of which are hard to trace. (No one name "Murphy" dreamed it up) But, it always seemed to me to be a "self fullfilling prophecy," as it were. It seems to come from a wiseacre, cynical view of life. We believe strongly enough in it, our subconscious brings out one frustration after another. Ever been in a hurry, panicky, etc., and one thing goes wrong and just builds on itself. Sit down, calm down, get a steady focus and matters get better.
What about the opposite, "what can go right, will go right." I'm sure we've all been "in the zone" or "in the flow," where everything just falls into place, effortlessly, smoothly.
Henry Ford put it quite well: "Believe you can, and you can. Believe you can't, and you can't. Both are true."

Permalink Reply by Joe Fulton on October 1, 2011 at 5:06pm
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Permalink Reply by Jon Fergus on October 2, 2011 at 10:41am And what would you do with this new found power? What would you do as a God? What is your ultimate goal? Is living forever the goal, or a means to a goal?
Those and similar questions need to be asked when one comes up with the question you've asked. The answers to these questions will determine which path you choose.
Also... you already are immortal. You don't have to become it. That's the illusion of separation gettin' to ya. And that's why it's called 'self-realization' and not 'self-acquirement'. It's only the lower part of you that is born and dies. Let it go.
There is no better guide than this: http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/voice/voice.htm
The question posed presupposes that humankind is bereft of the Diety to begin with. Is that the case? If so, then in what way? Also why does human kind continually grapple with this sense of separation?
How does one qualify oneself to move beyond samsara? Intention is a key element in the attainment of Adepthood. The desire to become a deified human being for selfish reasons alone, does not an Arhat make.
How one graduates and advances upon the path toward Selfhood is unique to each, however there are specific qualifications which must be met. Answers to which remain occulted for a reason. Such things must be arrived at on your own, when you are ready, and not a moment sooner.
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